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What would you do if you child had a horrible infectious disease like these?
Is it bad if, as a girl, I think of sleeping with my friend as "doing a friend a favor"?Everything about my upbringing - both at home and in society (and through harsh experiences of my first boyfriend informing mutual friends that he'd popped my cherry) - tells me that it is wrong. But logic tells me that there is nothing wrong as long as you are using contraception if you don't want pregnancy, and if you both know that you are clean of diseases. (On that note, as a basic courtesy I believe that you should not be having sex if you have a venereal disease, same way you should stay home from work if you have an infectious illness.)My biggest concern is about effectively turning myself basically into a tramp. I don't sleep with guys in general (or girls for that matter) - (the only other person I've ever slept with was my first boyfriend which incidentally I regret and think was a big mistake cos he was a LOSER, and I had one sexual experience without penetration with a random because I (yes very dimly) thought Halo or Southpark was on the cards but unbeknownst to me sex was on his mind and I don't know about you but I'd rather comply than invite violence), but then on the other hand, we're just friends, not even committing to being friends with benefits. At this point we're just good friends and anything can happen. We're both not prepared to even think of a relationship, but you know, we're in this state where anything goes now I guess cos we've gone the all the way one time now. (It's mainly just going to be hanging out as friends though, as and when, like normal friends. Bit of a weird situation I know.)I'm just wondering...how am I to conceptualize this? i don't want my friend thinking I'm a tramp (and he says he doesn't - the way he sees it we were just two people having a fun weekend), but at the same time if we get into a steamy situation again I've gotta know what I'm gonna decide. I'm not someone full of wisdom and people are gonna tell me to do what I feel as long as it makes me happy, but I want to know what men think of women like that. I don't want to degrade myself that's all. I value our camaraderie so much, and when I talked to him, he said he's cool with it, and he would like me to be cool with it. In my mind I just think "of course he's cool with it, he's a guy, he's just happy to get laid". But I'm not sure if I'm ready to let myself be cool with it....it's sex. He says "normally when people have good sex, they're just really happy. don't over think it." But to me, i think - it's sex. Though it may be a slippery-slope kind of logic, there's something sinful about allowing yourself to sleep with everyone. Something just not right. In my mind sex should be with a special person. But we're just good friends here.
MEN: Is it wrong to have sex with a friend? What do you think of those women?
MEDICINEDoctors and other medical physicians serve an important role in our society and have an effect upon all our lives. They diagnose illnesses and prescribe and administer treatment for people suffering from injury or disease. They also help counsel patients on diet, hygiene, and preventive health care. Upon illness or injury, people need to be able to rely on their doctors not just for an expert recital of choices when it comes to medical treatment, but also for advice about what to do and with that I wish to pursue my studies in the field of Medicine. I hope to achieve a Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery (MB BS) at the Fiji School of Medicine (FSM) which is the basic degree for a Medical Doctor. And become a General Practitioner upon completion. General Practitioners are Doctors who assess a wide variety of people and are often the first point of contact for people seeking health care. The proposed field of study involves a 6year course at FSM. In addition, since doctors work directly with people, I believe they must therefore be competent in their field and excellent communicators, and treat patients with kindness and humanity, so that patients are comfortable and are able to understand the conditions causing their illness, and ways in which it can be treated. Fiji as a developing country faces many health challenges, everyday many people die from preventable infectious diseases and malnutrition. Disease and sickness is inevitable, everyone will eventually get sick at some point in time and seek medical attention. And with an expanding population, there will be a need for medical resources, centers and expertise, particularly in rural areas where many have to travel great distances to attain medical attention. Doctors therefore play an important role in the development of Fiji, by providing medical assistance to the sick and injured
Can somebody proof read my scholarship letter?
1 which is not a classification of defence against infectious disease? A physicalB chemicalC biological D mentalquestion 2 which kind of immunity is developed by the body after having a disease sich as polioA passiveB natural C active D artificialquestion 3Which of the following is considered the most common commuicable disease in American society? it is also called the hidden epidemicA influenzaB mononucleosisC STDsD measles
health questions there are 3?
Sexual promiscuity and adultery are antisocial sex acts; they disrupt the social equilibrium of a society and also contribute to the spread of infectious diseases. Humans have a natural instinct to be sexually promiscuous and commit adultery. Christians have a system in place to ensure most of their children understand that sexual promiscuity and adultery are impulses that need to be controlled and most of them don’t do it. The children of Christians can ask their parents why these are bad and their parents can answer, “Because baby Jesus will punish you.” The children of atheists can ask their parents why adultery and sexual promiscuity are bad and atheists can only answer with the first sentence of this paragraph and hope that their children are smart enough to understand it. So which people have the most effective system in place?
Atheists: since you have no moral code that you believe is god given, how do you teach children about sex?
I work in a pub and therefore talk to alot of people, Ive also asked around generally and Ive yet to met anyone who is going to take it. I decided not to take it when I saw how fast they seem to be trying to pump it out and the Australasian Society for Infectious Diseases is even saying not to take it. Only the government is piping up and saying to go get your shot.....so who is taking it??
Anyone actually taking the swine flu vaccine?
- Discuss the importance of immunisation – (points for and against)- List the range of non-infectious diseases prevalent in society
Science Question - Please Help?
Would anyone, if in the position, allow school drop-outs (learning disability); people on the welfare; people with very infectious and dangerous, for the Society, diseases; drug addicts; alcoholics; mental Institutions’ patients and others, with antisocial personality disorders, to bring an innocent child to this World?
Are there any minimum requirements to qualify anyone’s readiness to become a parent, in civilized Country?
The Columbian ExchangeBy: Cody jonesThe Columbian Exchange (also sometimes known as The Great Exchange) has been one of the most significant events in the history of world ecology, agriculture, and culture. The term is used to describe the enormous widespread exchange of plants, animals, foods, human populations (including slaves), communicable diseases, and ideas between the Eastern and Western hemispheres that occurred after 1492. Many new and different goods were exchanged between the two hemispheres of the Earth, and it began a new revolution in the Americas and in Europe. In 1492, Christopher Columbus' first voyage launched an era of large-scale contact between the Old and the New World that resulted in this ecological revolution: hence the name "Columbian" Exchange. The Columbian Exchange greatly affected almost every society on earth, bringing destructive diseases that depopulated many cultures, and also circulating a wide variety of new crops and livestock that, in the long term, increased rather than diminished the world human population. Maize and potatoes became very important crops in Eurasia by the 1700s. Peanuts and manioc flourished in tropical Southeast Asian and West African soils that otherwise would not produce large yields or support large populations. This exchange of plants and animals transformed European, American, African, and Asian ways of life. Foods that had never been seen before by people became staples of their diets, as new growing regions opened up for crops. For example, before AD 1000, potatoes were not grown outside of South America. By the 1840s, Ireland was so dependent on the potato that a diseased crop led to the devastating Irish Potato Famine. The first European import, the horse, changed the lives of many Native American tribes on the Great Plains, allowing them to shift to a nomadic lifestyle based on hunting bison on horseback. Tomato sauce, made from New World tomatoes, became an Italian trademark, while coffee from Africa and sugar cane from Asia became the main crops of extensive Latin American plantations. Also the chili / Paprika from South America was introduced in India by the Portuguese and it is today an inseparable part of Indian cuisine. Before the Columbian Exchange, there were no oranges in Florida, no bananas in Ecuador, no paprika in Hungary, no tomatoes in Italy, no pineapples in Hawaii, no rubber trees in Africa, no cattle in Texas, no burros in Mexico, no chili peppers in Thailand and India, no cigarettes in France and no chocolate in Switzerland. Even the dandelion was brought to America by Europeans for use as an herb. Before regular communication had been established between the two hemispheres, the varieties of domesticated animals and infectious diseases were strikingly larger in the Old World than in the New. This led, in part, to the devastating effects of Old World diseases on Native American populations. The smallpox epidemics probably resulted in the largest death toll for Native Americans. Scarcely any society on earth remained unaffected by this global ecological exchange. Type of organismOld World list (what they had)New World list (what they had)Domesticated animals•camel •cattle •donkey •fowl (several species including chickens) •goat •horse •pig •rabbit •sheep•fowl (a few species) •guinea pig •raccoon •llama •turkey Domesticated plants•bananas •barley •beans •black pepper •cabbage •coffee •cotton (short staple "Egyptian" variety) •citrus •garlic •hemp •lettuce •oats •onion •peach •pear •rice •rye •sugarcane •turnip •wheat •avocado •beans •cashew •chicle (chewing gum base) •chili pepper (includes the bell pepper) •cocoa •cotton (long staple variety, 90% of modern cultivation) •huckleberry •maize (corn) •manioc (cassava) •papaya •peanut •pecan •pineapple •potato •rubber •squash (incl. pumpkin) •sunflower •strawberry •sweet potato •tobacco •tomato •vanilla Infectious diseases•bubonic plague •cholera •influenza •malaria •measles •scarlet fever •sleeping sickness •smallpox •tuberculosis •typhoid •yellow fever •syphilis (possibly)•yellow fever (American strains)
Wht was the columbian extange?
Hi can someone please help me summarize this passage reducing it to approximately one-third of its original length. Without quoting from this paragraph. Just to give me an idea on how to do it right. Thank you. American society in the twenty-first century is very different from that of early Americans, and not just because we have televisions and VCRs. Two Hundred years ago, people lived half as long as they do today, and families had twice as many children. In general, all Americans are living longer, which means not only is our Working life extended, but we can expect to retire from work and live another 15 to 20 years to enjoy the fruits of our labours. Americans born in 1700 had an average life expectancy Of 30 to 35 years due to poor diet, disease, and accidents. By 1831, four generations had passed, and there had been a slight improvement in life expectancy, with males expecting To live to age 40 and females to 42. During the next four generations, major medical breakthroughs and public health education eliminated a number of infectious diseases and Reduced infant mortality so that American ’ life spans were almost double what they were a little more than a century previously. But while American can expect a long and healthy life, with many living well into their seventies or eighties, the average life span will not increase indefinitely. While we can expect to live longer than the Americans of the 1700s, we cant expect to live forever.
Hi can someone please help me summarize this passage reducing it to approximately one-third of its original le?
I usually hang in:Jokes & RiddlesYahoo! AnswersOther - Society & CultureInfectious DiseasesLyricsI don't know why i go to alot of categories.
Friday, November 12, 2010
Who noted that living organisms are responsible for infectious diseases?
LaCoste
science
Ojai
Pasteur did. And he was pretty freaking smart. He developed the method of culturing organisms (in this case bacteria) using Petri plates and a nutritive substrate. We still use this today. . .like 200 years later. Anyway, he successfully linked the disease of anthrax with the microorganism that caused it. He took blood from healthy and diseased rats and compared the cultures. After identifying and isolating the one bacterial strain that was absent in the healthy and present in the disease, he injected that bacteria into a healthy rat. He proved the connection by again culturing blood from the newly diseased rat and finding the same bacteria. Very smart guy. This protocol is still used today.
Sheboygan Falls
"Louis Pasteur (December 27, 1822 – September 28, 1895) was a French chemist best known for his remarkable breakthroughs in microbiology. His experiments confirmed the germ theory of disease, also reducing mortality from puerperal fever (childbed), and he created the first vaccine for rabies. He is best known to the general public for showing how to stop milk and wine from going sour - this process came to be called pasteurization. He is regarded as one of the three main founders of bacteriology, together with Ferdinand Cohn and Robert Koch. He also made many discoveries in the field of chemistry, most notably the asymmetry of crystals."
science
Ojai
Pasteur did. And he was pretty freaking smart. He developed the method of culturing organisms (in this case bacteria) using Petri plates and a nutritive substrate. We still use this today. . .like 200 years later. Anyway, he successfully linked the disease of anthrax with the microorganism that caused it. He took blood from healthy and diseased rats and compared the cultures. After identifying and isolating the one bacterial strain that was absent in the healthy and present in the disease, he injected that bacteria into a healthy rat. He proved the connection by again culturing blood from the newly diseased rat and finding the same bacteria. Very smart guy. This protocol is still used today.
Sheboygan Falls
"Louis Pasteur (December 27, 1822 – September 28, 1895) was a French chemist best known for his remarkable breakthroughs in microbiology. His experiments confirmed the germ theory of disease, also reducing mortality from puerperal fever (childbed), and he created the first vaccine for rabies. He is best known to the general public for showing how to stop milk and wine from going sour - this process came to be called pasteurization. He is regarded as one of the three main founders of bacteriology, together with Ferdinand Cohn and Robert Koch. He also made many discoveries in the field of chemistry, most notably the asymmetry of crystals."
List of people registered with infectious disease?
Wright
I don't think you can get such a list. There are privacy laws to protect such.
Hunting Valley
why, do you need to be on it?
Fairfax
why
Pembroke Pines
what about it?
Fourche
what you are asking is what is called the privicy act no one here can over do the law on this matter? that is the law?
I don't think you can get such a list. There are privacy laws to protect such.
Hunting Valley
why, do you need to be on it?
Fairfax
why
Pembroke Pines
what about it?
Fourche
what you are asking is what is called the privicy act no one here can over do the law on this matter? that is the law?
List of people registered with infectious disease?
Wright
I don't think you can get such a list. There are privacy laws to protect such.
Hunting Valley
why, do you need to be on it?
Fairfax
why
Pembroke Pines
what about it?
Fourche
what you are asking is what is called the privicy act no one here can over do the law on this matter? that is the law?
I don't think you can get such a list. There are privacy laws to protect such.
Hunting Valley
why, do you need to be on it?
Fairfax
why
Pembroke Pines
what about it?
Fourche
what you are asking is what is called the privicy act no one here can over do the law on this matter? that is the law?
How would an osteopath treat diabetes or other noninfectious diseases?
Stroudsburg
I've been reading the website of The British Institute of Osteopathy and I cannot find any reference to treatment of non-infectious diseases (i. e. those not caused by a bacteria, virus, protozoa, parasite, mould, fungus or yeast).I was always taught that the definition of 'disease' is 'any undesirable condition of the body or mind". I like this definition because it encompasses everything, from flu to schizophrenia to diabetes to cancer - or even just spots! It's also a definition which should satisfy both 'orthodox' and alternative medical definitions of 'disease'. From this all-encompassing definition of disease I then went on to study pathogenic/infectious disease i. e. those causes by pathogens which infect the body. From what I've read on this site it seems that if osteopaths understood the basic principles of 'orthodox' medicine they would find both theories actually pretty much agree. The British Institute of Osteopathy seems to think that 'orthodox' medicine is only concerned with eliminating pathogens. Obviously this is not the case; it is well understood that an optimally functioning human body and immune system is able to defend itself adequately against many invaders. Any medicinal approach has to be primarily concerned with keeping a body healthy/an environment clean so that it does not have to cleanse itself. But what about diseases, like diabetes, that are not infectious - how can osteopathy help? What is the osteopathic theory of how they develop? Chalice
White Mesa
They can't. Just to clarify, in the UK osteopaths' have a different role to US osteopaths' who are DOs. I am in the UK. Both Osteopathy and Chiropractic stemmed from the same occult philosophical woo roots, both believe that the body can heal itself with the manipulation of bones and joints. The osteo’s believe that moving bones improves circulation and that, "loss of structural integrity can be restored to harmony or equilibrium by manipulation". The chiro's believe that moving bones reduces pressure on the nerves, which helps various organs and tissue. Now to be fair, Osteopathy has left a lot of it's woo woo roots behind in recent years; but the problem is many Osteo's are germ theory denialists and believe that diseases are caused by misalignment's of the spine. Not only is this BS, viruses can sometimes "trigger" type 1 diabetes in someone who already has genetic tendencys. Their germ denialism contradicts well tested microbiology, histology, immunology and physiology. Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease. In order to develop it, the patient needs to have an inherited tenancy that is activated in some way by a viral trigger to switch on a progressive destruction of the bodies own ability to produce insulin. Antibodies are produced that are directed against both the insulin hormone and the pancreatic beta cells that produce and release insulin. Once these cells have been destroyed, insulin levels fall to such low levels that the patient develops diabetes. There is no way, osteopathy could prevent or treat this problem. With type 2 diabetes, most is age related, sometimes inherited, and often caused by "Western living" (that has a strong association with obesity, a poor diet and physical inactivity). Insulin levels are usually lower and most importantly, the patients tissues are resistant to the action of insulin (insulin resistance). There is no plausible way, osteopathy could prevent or treat this problem.======================================…@ Lightning: You said, "Having said that the germ theory is probably incomplete as being exposed to a germ does not guarentee that you will become ill where as someone standing next to you may become very sick with the same exposure even though both of you had never been exposed to the germ before."Only an unscientific mind would suggest that because not everyone who is exposed to the same germ gets sick, it must mean germs aren't the causes of disease. That’s a fallacy, sir. EXAMPLE:50 people (5 times over the limit) drink drive, only 20 of them have accidents, Therefore alcohol was not a factor in the other accidents. This does not follow, it does not mean that alcohol wasn't the cause of those accidents. It's the same with germs.. FAIL.======================================…lol Weise for BA.
Fate
I actually got this website from a link Dave provided in a previous question ;-)I'm glad to hear not all osteopaths the world over subscribe to the nonsense I read on this site!!I also this question was meant to be a bit of a sh*t stirrer - many intelligent answers tho, and interesting rants!! Report Abuse
Varna
What value do you get **** stirring? The nurses answer was rubbish BTW with a whole host of inaccuracies and a clear mis-understanding of cause and effect. Report Abuse
Saginaw
Such a sore loser lighty. Tsk tsk. Report Abuse
Taunton
No just stating the truth. Your answer is full of inacurate wibble. Report Abuse
Mount Airy
The British osteopaths seem to be germ theory denialists. Best to ridicule them at every opportunity. In the US, osteopaths are trained much like doctors and aren't nuts. Edit: Lightning, actually read the statement from the British osteopath organization. Anyone who denies germ theory is insane.
Rebersburg
I know not of the British Osteopath but in the US a DO would treat as "orthodox" medicine. in the US DOs have the same specialties as MDs. Mayo Clinic has DOs on staff as well as most ERs around the country. Same hospital privileges, etc., there is no apparent anamosity between MDs and DOs
Martinez
Incorrectly.
Lyons
Do you think that germs cause disease? The British Institute of Osteopathy disagrees: "Germs are made by your body in an effort to clear up a messy environment. Once this has been achieved they will automatically disappear again."http://www. british-institute-of-osteopat… I really don't recommend that site at all, it's very bizarre and much of the information is outdated and completely incorrect.
North Spearfish
###"Germs are made by your body in an effort to clear up a messy environment. Once this has been achieved they will automatically disappear again."I really don't recommend that site at all, it's very bizarre and much of the information is outdated and completely incorrect.####I couldn't agree more Dave. I'd never actually heard of the British institute of Osteopathy until you mentioned it in a previous question. I don't know anyone who is a member. Before regulation there were lots of societies and organisations which are now defunct with very few members if any. Institutions like this exist with a membership often composed mostly of non osteopaths although I haven't looked at this one so I couldn't comment. Having said that the germ theory is probably incomplete as being exposed to a germ does not guarentee that you will become ill where as someone standing next to you may become very sick with the same exposure even though both of you had never been exposed to the germ before. Moving on.....When osteopathy was founded what caused sickness wasn't well understood so differing theories were around. In the 50's because of major discoveries the Osteopathic syllabuses were revamped and some of the older treatments were dumped as the causative factors had been established and were systemic rather than musculoskeletal. For example Osteopaths were taught non surgical treatments for Apendicitis. We aren't anymore because a better treatment protocol has been established and attempting to treat apendicitis the traditional osteopathic way would be potentially dangerous and there is a good chance the patient would die. Some die hards hold on to the orignial teachings literally but they are very few in number. This is a dangerous position to be in and found in all walks of life. It assumes whoever founded whatever had all the answers. I know Andrew T. Still would not have claimed to have known everything but beside from that if you know it all you can't learn. If you can't learn anymore you are doomed. There are musculo-skeletal components to some illnesses. For example a cough or a cold may be eased a little by working on the thorax and diaphragm and the nasal complex. It wouldn't always be appropriate to treat. For example I sent a patient home a few months ago as touching him was like handling a hot water bottle. His body temperature was very high and there was a very good chance that treating him would have led to him having a stroke (he didn't come in complining of a cold I will add). He came back about a week later when his temperature had dropped. As for diabeties, we learn a lot about it as it is very common and affects every system in the body including the musculoskeletal system. Consequently it is important to establish whether or not the musculoskeletal symptoms people present with are actually musculoskeletal in origin. An Osteopath cannot directly treat diabeties. An Osteopath may well treat a patient with diabetes and may help blood supply to the tissues affected by diabeties but the underlying causative factor will remain. I would not expect a patient to present to my clinic asking me to treat their diabeties. If that did happen all I could do is give them some dietry advice. However Diabetics do hurt themselves and have musculoskeltal pain just like anyone else so I do see a lot of people with diabeties. If the diabeties isn't causing their musculoskeletal condition I usually do treat them although more cautiously than a non diabetic patient. I think many of the anti-osteopath bloggers would actually be surprised by how much we actually agree with the conventional medical world. Weise####The British osteopaths seem to be germ theory denialists. Best to ridicule them at every opportunity.###Not true. You have a real problem with getting your facts right. Denying germ theory is not a pre-requisit to practicing Osteopathy.###In the US, osteopaths are trained much like doctors and aren't nuts.###You've just earned a report. Edit2:###Lightning. If it's so medical and great why didn't you just become a doctor?###A few reasons angelhil. What I like most about my job is the specialism. We get very good at what we do but what we do is limited. I am not expected to be able to treat every condition known to man and have limitations. What I can't treat I don't attempt to and refer them on. As a medical physician you are almost expected to know and do everything. This isn't possible and I think why medicine fails so many people with chronic non life threatening conditions. I have also met many doctors over the years in my professional capacity, as a patient and as a layman and far too many of them have an attitude which is appaling. I didn't want to become like them. I could do a 3 year post grad degree in Checz Republic to convert my osteopathic degree to a medical degree but I have absolubtely no intention of doing so. I like what I do and how I practice & I like my relationship with my community too much to want to change it. Judging by my patient list they like it too.###They can't. Just to clarify, in the UK osteopaths' have a different role to US osteopaths' who are DOs.###Agreed. We practice real osteopathy. US osteopath are doctors pretending to be Osteopaths###I am in the UK. Both Osteopathy and Chiropractic stemmed from the same occult philosophical woo roots###Not sure about chiropractic but Osteopathy does not have occult roots at all. A.T. Still was a practicing methodist and would never have adopted technique based in occult philosophy.###Only an unscientific mind would suggest that because not everyone who is exposed to the same germ gets sick, it must mean germs aren't the causes of disease. That’s a fallacy, sir.###I would say only a reductionist, unscientific, blinkered mind would think like you do. There are millions of seeds in the ground in a farmers field. Some will grow after being there years because the conditions suddenly become right for them to burst forth and grow. Germs are likely to be a big part of the disease condition. They most certainly are not created inside us and having them in our bodies most certainly can lead to illness disease and even death but maybe the germ itself is not the whole answer. The conditions and its environment may also need to be correct for it to become active and propogate. If I'm wrong explain why 2 people exposed to the same germ won't both get the disease necessarily? If the germ is the only thing involved how can this happen? The theory of Diabeties being related to spinal segment dysfunction has been around for a while. It's total whack. However I am embarased to admit I have met Osteo's who beleive there is something in it. I don't know why as quite clearly diabetes doesn't go away when you manipulate those spinal segments. I have to clarify this is not taught in the syllabus of any of the colleges in the UK or Australiasia. It is however mentioned as a historical treatment protocol which we should no longer do. Type 1 theory is as rhianna suggests, Type 2, seems to be insulin resistance related as well as lower insulin related depending on the patient adiposite structure and function Some type 2 diabetics have higher secretions of insulin than non diabetics. Although I am sure compression of the spinal nerve roots does affect organs, more commonly the paravertebral tightening is a symptom of organ dysfunction rather than the cause of it. Consequently I am not sold on this theory as a healthy organ would still function and not fail to end up so dis-eased to cause diabeties from its nerve supply being pinched. When organs have no nerve supply at all, for example after an accident severing the spinal cord, they still function by means of hormone regulation and remain healthy (although their function is not optimum, I'm sure everyone would agree).####50 people (5 times over the limit) drink drive, only 20 of them have accidents, Therefore alcohol was not a factor in the other accidents. This does not follow, it does not mean that alcohol wasn't the cause of those accidents. It's the same with germs.. FAIL.####You've confirmed excatly what I am saying, although alcohol is a strong contributing factor which caused these 20 out of 50 to have accidents the environment is a factor in whether or not these people have accidents. Did they all drive home the same way? Were cars comming in the opposite direction for all of them? If so where some of these drivers sozzled as well and unable to get out of the way? Did they all turn corners? How far did they drive, was it all the same distance? Did some of them have more opportunities to have accidents because of additional hazzards as well as some of the things I've mentioned? You really need to look at your research methodology Rhianna. How did you get you MSc? I'm sure you would have done better than this. Edit:###@lightning. So when you gave me all that abuse saying "you're not a doctor!!" YOU'RE NOT A DOCTOR EITHER YOU FOOL!####I didn't give you abuse for not being a doctor I gave you abuse because you were being rude and ignorant and not showing appropriate respect. FYI, in NZ and Australia a registered Osteopath has the honorary title of Doctor. I am fully entitled to put this on my stationary, letter heads, bank statements etc. but I seldom use it at all because I don't like to be associated with medical physicians which has become the default occupation for the title 'Doctor'.In my opinion the only true holders of the title 'Doctor' are people that have been awarded PHD. Where is yours angelhil?
Brownsville
First, an osteopath in the UK is a DIPLOMAT of osteopathy, much like a chiropractor in the USA. Osteopathic physicians are DOCTORS of osteopathy in the USA and fully trained and licensed physicians and surgeons for over 100 years. An osteopathic tenant is that structure alters function and the rule of the artery from AT Still, MD, DO the founding father of osteopathy in the 1800's. Osteopaths would discuss lifestyle, including stress, eating habits, exercise and sleep patterns with their patient with diabetes mellitus. They would perform a comprehensive physical examination and work to normalize any abnormalities in the neuromusculoskeletal system. Such viscero somatic neural relexes my help to normalize or slow the diabetic condition and those related. I am unaware of any manual medicine studies that show they can normalize serium glucose levels or keep someone for needing exogenous insulin therapy. Sir William Osler said that a good doctor treats the disease but the great doctor treats the patient. Diabetes may be triggered by a virus or arise from an autoimmune disorder where the body attacks itself and may indeed be considered an infectious disorder. In any case, there is a place for such hands on, whole person healers along with the cutters and pill prescribers in the world. You may not limit yourself to one reference site for osteopathy and search the internet further. Wiki?
I've been reading the website of The British Institute of Osteopathy and I cannot find any reference to treatment of non-infectious diseases (i. e. those not caused by a bacteria, virus, protozoa, parasite, mould, fungus or yeast).I was always taught that the definition of 'disease' is 'any undesirable condition of the body or mind". I like this definition because it encompasses everything, from flu to schizophrenia to diabetes to cancer - or even just spots! It's also a definition which should satisfy both 'orthodox' and alternative medical definitions of 'disease'. From this all-encompassing definition of disease I then went on to study pathogenic/infectious disease i. e. those causes by pathogens which infect the body. From what I've read on this site it seems that if osteopaths understood the basic principles of 'orthodox' medicine they would find both theories actually pretty much agree. The British Institute of Osteopathy seems to think that 'orthodox' medicine is only concerned with eliminating pathogens. Obviously this is not the case; it is well understood that an optimally functioning human body and immune system is able to defend itself adequately against many invaders. Any medicinal approach has to be primarily concerned with keeping a body healthy/an environment clean so that it does not have to cleanse itself. But what about diseases, like diabetes, that are not infectious - how can osteopathy help? What is the osteopathic theory of how they develop? Chalice
White Mesa
They can't. Just to clarify, in the UK osteopaths' have a different role to US osteopaths' who are DOs. I am in the UK. Both Osteopathy and Chiropractic stemmed from the same occult philosophical woo roots, both believe that the body can heal itself with the manipulation of bones and joints. The osteo’s believe that moving bones improves circulation and that, "loss of structural integrity can be restored to harmony or equilibrium by manipulation". The chiro's believe that moving bones reduces pressure on the nerves, which helps various organs and tissue. Now to be fair, Osteopathy has left a lot of it's woo woo roots behind in recent years; but the problem is many Osteo's are germ theory denialists and believe that diseases are caused by misalignment's of the spine. Not only is this BS, viruses can sometimes "trigger" type 1 diabetes in someone who already has genetic tendencys. Their germ denialism contradicts well tested microbiology, histology, immunology and physiology. Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease. In order to develop it, the patient needs to have an inherited tenancy that is activated in some way by a viral trigger to switch on a progressive destruction of the bodies own ability to produce insulin. Antibodies are produced that are directed against both the insulin hormone and the pancreatic beta cells that produce and release insulin. Once these cells have been destroyed, insulin levels fall to such low levels that the patient develops diabetes. There is no way, osteopathy could prevent or treat this problem. With type 2 diabetes, most is age related, sometimes inherited, and often caused by "Western living" (that has a strong association with obesity, a poor diet and physical inactivity). Insulin levels are usually lower and most importantly, the patients tissues are resistant to the action of insulin (insulin resistance). There is no plausible way, osteopathy could prevent or treat this problem.======================================…@ Lightning: You said, "Having said that the germ theory is probably incomplete as being exposed to a germ does not guarentee that you will become ill where as someone standing next to you may become very sick with the same exposure even though both of you had never been exposed to the germ before."Only an unscientific mind would suggest that because not everyone who is exposed to the same germ gets sick, it must mean germs aren't the causes of disease. That’s a fallacy, sir. EXAMPLE:50 people (5 times over the limit) drink drive, only 20 of them have accidents, Therefore alcohol was not a factor in the other accidents. This does not follow, it does not mean that alcohol wasn't the cause of those accidents. It's the same with germs.. FAIL.======================================…lol Weise for BA.
Fate
I actually got this website from a link Dave provided in a previous question ;-)I'm glad to hear not all osteopaths the world over subscribe to the nonsense I read on this site!!I also this question was meant to be a bit of a sh*t stirrer - many intelligent answers tho, and interesting rants!! Report Abuse
Varna
What value do you get **** stirring? The nurses answer was rubbish BTW with a whole host of inaccuracies and a clear mis-understanding of cause and effect. Report Abuse
Saginaw
Such a sore loser lighty. Tsk tsk. Report Abuse
Taunton
No just stating the truth. Your answer is full of inacurate wibble. Report Abuse
Mount Airy
The British osteopaths seem to be germ theory denialists. Best to ridicule them at every opportunity. In the US, osteopaths are trained much like doctors and aren't nuts. Edit: Lightning, actually read the statement from the British osteopath organization. Anyone who denies germ theory is insane.
Rebersburg
I know not of the British Osteopath but in the US a DO would treat as "orthodox" medicine. in the US DOs have the same specialties as MDs. Mayo Clinic has DOs on staff as well as most ERs around the country. Same hospital privileges, etc., there is no apparent anamosity between MDs and DOs
Martinez
Incorrectly.
Lyons
Do you think that germs cause disease? The British Institute of Osteopathy disagrees: "Germs are made by your body in an effort to clear up a messy environment. Once this has been achieved they will automatically disappear again."http://www. british-institute-of-osteopat… I really don't recommend that site at all, it's very bizarre and much of the information is outdated and completely incorrect.
North Spearfish
###"Germs are made by your body in an effort to clear up a messy environment. Once this has been achieved they will automatically disappear again."I really don't recommend that site at all, it's very bizarre and much of the information is outdated and completely incorrect.####I couldn't agree more Dave. I'd never actually heard of the British institute of Osteopathy until you mentioned it in a previous question. I don't know anyone who is a member. Before regulation there were lots of societies and organisations which are now defunct with very few members if any. Institutions like this exist with a membership often composed mostly of non osteopaths although I haven't looked at this one so I couldn't comment. Having said that the germ theory is probably incomplete as being exposed to a germ does not guarentee that you will become ill where as someone standing next to you may become very sick with the same exposure even though both of you had never been exposed to the germ before. Moving on.....When osteopathy was founded what caused sickness wasn't well understood so differing theories were around. In the 50's because of major discoveries the Osteopathic syllabuses were revamped and some of the older treatments were dumped as the causative factors had been established and were systemic rather than musculoskeletal. For example Osteopaths were taught non surgical treatments for Apendicitis. We aren't anymore because a better treatment protocol has been established and attempting to treat apendicitis the traditional osteopathic way would be potentially dangerous and there is a good chance the patient would die. Some die hards hold on to the orignial teachings literally but they are very few in number. This is a dangerous position to be in and found in all walks of life. It assumes whoever founded whatever had all the answers. I know Andrew T. Still would not have claimed to have known everything but beside from that if you know it all you can't learn. If you can't learn anymore you are doomed. There are musculo-skeletal components to some illnesses. For example a cough or a cold may be eased a little by working on the thorax and diaphragm and the nasal complex. It wouldn't always be appropriate to treat. For example I sent a patient home a few months ago as touching him was like handling a hot water bottle. His body temperature was very high and there was a very good chance that treating him would have led to him having a stroke (he didn't come in complining of a cold I will add). He came back about a week later when his temperature had dropped. As for diabeties, we learn a lot about it as it is very common and affects every system in the body including the musculoskeletal system. Consequently it is important to establish whether or not the musculoskeletal symptoms people present with are actually musculoskeletal in origin. An Osteopath cannot directly treat diabeties. An Osteopath may well treat a patient with diabetes and may help blood supply to the tissues affected by diabeties but the underlying causative factor will remain. I would not expect a patient to present to my clinic asking me to treat their diabeties. If that did happen all I could do is give them some dietry advice. However Diabetics do hurt themselves and have musculoskeltal pain just like anyone else so I do see a lot of people with diabeties. If the diabeties isn't causing their musculoskeletal condition I usually do treat them although more cautiously than a non diabetic patient. I think many of the anti-osteopath bloggers would actually be surprised by how much we actually agree with the conventional medical world. Weise####The British osteopaths seem to be germ theory denialists. Best to ridicule them at every opportunity.###Not true. You have a real problem with getting your facts right. Denying germ theory is not a pre-requisit to practicing Osteopathy.###In the US, osteopaths are trained much like doctors and aren't nuts.###You've just earned a report. Edit2:###Lightning. If it's so medical and great why didn't you just become a doctor?###A few reasons angelhil. What I like most about my job is the specialism. We get very good at what we do but what we do is limited. I am not expected to be able to treat every condition known to man and have limitations. What I can't treat I don't attempt to and refer them on. As a medical physician you are almost expected to know and do everything. This isn't possible and I think why medicine fails so many people with chronic non life threatening conditions. I have also met many doctors over the years in my professional capacity, as a patient and as a layman and far too many of them have an attitude which is appaling. I didn't want to become like them. I could do a 3 year post grad degree in Checz Republic to convert my osteopathic degree to a medical degree but I have absolubtely no intention of doing so. I like what I do and how I practice & I like my relationship with my community too much to want to change it. Judging by my patient list they like it too.###They can't. Just to clarify, in the UK osteopaths' have a different role to US osteopaths' who are DOs.###Agreed. We practice real osteopathy. US osteopath are doctors pretending to be Osteopaths###I am in the UK. Both Osteopathy and Chiropractic stemmed from the same occult philosophical woo roots###Not sure about chiropractic but Osteopathy does not have occult roots at all. A.T. Still was a practicing methodist and would never have adopted technique based in occult philosophy.###Only an unscientific mind would suggest that because not everyone who is exposed to the same germ gets sick, it must mean germs aren't the causes of disease. That’s a fallacy, sir.###I would say only a reductionist, unscientific, blinkered mind would think like you do. There are millions of seeds in the ground in a farmers field. Some will grow after being there years because the conditions suddenly become right for them to burst forth and grow. Germs are likely to be a big part of the disease condition. They most certainly are not created inside us and having them in our bodies most certainly can lead to illness disease and even death but maybe the germ itself is not the whole answer. The conditions and its environment may also need to be correct for it to become active and propogate. If I'm wrong explain why 2 people exposed to the same germ won't both get the disease necessarily? If the germ is the only thing involved how can this happen? The theory of Diabeties being related to spinal segment dysfunction has been around for a while. It's total whack. However I am embarased to admit I have met Osteo's who beleive there is something in it. I don't know why as quite clearly diabetes doesn't go away when you manipulate those spinal segments. I have to clarify this is not taught in the syllabus of any of the colleges in the UK or Australiasia. It is however mentioned as a historical treatment protocol which we should no longer do. Type 1 theory is as rhianna suggests, Type 2, seems to be insulin resistance related as well as lower insulin related depending on the patient adiposite structure and function Some type 2 diabetics have higher secretions of insulin than non diabetics. Although I am sure compression of the spinal nerve roots does affect organs, more commonly the paravertebral tightening is a symptom of organ dysfunction rather than the cause of it. Consequently I am not sold on this theory as a healthy organ would still function and not fail to end up so dis-eased to cause diabeties from its nerve supply being pinched. When organs have no nerve supply at all, for example after an accident severing the spinal cord, they still function by means of hormone regulation and remain healthy (although their function is not optimum, I'm sure everyone would agree).####50 people (5 times over the limit) drink drive, only 20 of them have accidents, Therefore alcohol was not a factor in the other accidents. This does not follow, it does not mean that alcohol wasn't the cause of those accidents. It's the same with germs.. FAIL.####You've confirmed excatly what I am saying, although alcohol is a strong contributing factor which caused these 20 out of 50 to have accidents the environment is a factor in whether or not these people have accidents. Did they all drive home the same way? Were cars comming in the opposite direction for all of them? If so where some of these drivers sozzled as well and unable to get out of the way? Did they all turn corners? How far did they drive, was it all the same distance? Did some of them have more opportunities to have accidents because of additional hazzards as well as some of the things I've mentioned? You really need to look at your research methodology Rhianna. How did you get you MSc? I'm sure you would have done better than this. Edit:###@lightning. So when you gave me all that abuse saying "you're not a doctor!!" YOU'RE NOT A DOCTOR EITHER YOU FOOL!####I didn't give you abuse for not being a doctor I gave you abuse because you were being rude and ignorant and not showing appropriate respect. FYI, in NZ and Australia a registered Osteopath has the honorary title of Doctor. I am fully entitled to put this on my stationary, letter heads, bank statements etc. but I seldom use it at all because I don't like to be associated with medical physicians which has become the default occupation for the title 'Doctor'.In my opinion the only true holders of the title 'Doctor' are people that have been awarded PHD. Where is yours angelhil?
Brownsville
First, an osteopath in the UK is a DIPLOMAT of osteopathy, much like a chiropractor in the USA. Osteopathic physicians are DOCTORS of osteopathy in the USA and fully trained and licensed physicians and surgeons for over 100 years. An osteopathic tenant is that structure alters function and the rule of the artery from AT Still, MD, DO the founding father of osteopathy in the 1800's. Osteopaths would discuss lifestyle, including stress, eating habits, exercise and sleep patterns with their patient with diabetes mellitus. They would perform a comprehensive physical examination and work to normalize any abnormalities in the neuromusculoskeletal system. Such viscero somatic neural relexes my help to normalize or slow the diabetic condition and those related. I am unaware of any manual medicine studies that show they can normalize serium glucose levels or keep someone for needing exogenous insulin therapy. Sir William Osler said that a good doctor treats the disease but the great doctor treats the patient. Diabetes may be triggered by a virus or arise from an autoimmune disorder where the body attacks itself and may indeed be considered an infectious disorder. In any case, there is a place for such hands on, whole person healers along with the cutters and pill prescribers in the world. You may not limit yourself to one reference site for osteopathy and search the internet further. Wiki?
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